right now the numbers show that mitt romney is trailing. and our polls in florida by point -- florida by 2 points and ohio by a point. he does have some ground to make up but very little. >> i want to be very very clear here. in the rasmussen poll in florida, the president is up by 2, not 10. 2. >> correct. >> bill: and ohio n. ohio the president is up by 1. both within a margin of error a dead heat. >> those polls are just taken over a week ago. they may have shifted in the president's favor, a lot of the numbers have in the last week or so. we are seeing a very close race in those states within the margin of error. these are states that mitt romney absolutely has to win. >> >> bill: when will you have new polling from florida and ohio? >> next week. >> okay. doctor, you have heard i think both rove and morris were pretty -- they made a pretty good case. that the polling we saw today isn't accurate and but it does have a definite effect on the perception of the presidential race. what do you say? >> well, i think karl rove made some good p